tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8040803619606171036.post2810492492147754019..comments2024-03-23T08:41:40.275-07:00Comments on WolfieWiseGuy: The Murder of Penny BellWolfieWiseGuyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04934133619872861691noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8040803619606171036.post-8445012750009587812015-06-12T13:15:33.040-07:002015-06-12T13:15:33.040-07:00i have done research on robert napper. i dont thin...i have done research on robert napper. i dont think his MO fits penny bell or jean bradley as both women were not sexually assaulted. he was also suspected of killing claire tiltman, but a man named colin ash smith was charged with her murder.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08203166858608837356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8040803619606171036.post-14085431452303927192015-06-12T12:40:21.928-07:002015-06-12T12:40:21.928-07:00Hello again, Lee, if you want to share more of wha...Hello again, Lee, if you want to share more of what you know, feel free and I will put it up. No doubt you have read the various comments from other readers. It`s good to spark debate. Regards, DarylWolfieWiseGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04934133619872861691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8040803619606171036.post-24592315050650656792015-06-10T14:31:53.406-07:002015-06-10T14:31:53.406-07:00i agree gay men are not violent to women. i have a...i agree gay men are not violent to women. i have a real crime case file on the penny bell case.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08203166858608837356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8040803619606171036.post-41223802332077336942015-06-10T13:18:57.616-07:002015-06-10T13:18:57.616-07:00Hello Lee, many thanks for your email. This is so...Hello Lee, many thanks for your email. This is something that has not made it into the public domain. It certainly puts a perspective on the case, but some may argue that gay men are only violent to other men. An intriguing clue. Thank you, Lee. Regards, DarylWolfieWiseGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04934133619872861691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8040803619606171036.post-83922912608595232332015-06-09T16:44:47.163-07:002015-06-09T16:44:47.163-07:00penny bells husband alistair lived with a man befo...penny bells husband alistair lived with a man before he married penny. some detectives on the case speculated it was his ex lover that killed penny.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08203166858608837356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8040803619606171036.post-30444683321103940862014-05-24T12:40:21.312-07:002014-05-24T12:40:21.312-07:00Hello again, Mr B, I really do like your insights ...Hello again, Mr B, I really do like your insights into this case, as I do try to encourage differing views. I have had a couple of different scenarios from other viewers, and there is one who has done a lot of research into Napper`s background, and is convinced that not only did he kill Jean & Penny but also puts him in the frame for at least four others. This can only be speculation and only can the truth be known by positive evidence but it makes us think. We must not get caught up in the "Criminal Minds" scene, where all offenders behave textbook. Ridgway did not kill most of the prostitutes he went with, Ramirez did not kill all his victims, Bobby Joe Long let a victim live, which led to his downfall. My point is that Napper is a good suspect, but we can all be wrong. Hopefully, one day the truth will out. Respect DarylWolfieWiseGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04934133619872861691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8040803619606171036.post-54334378779588496282014-05-24T10:15:02.917-07:002014-05-24T10:15:02.917-07:00Wolfie, I see why Napper could be suspected but th...Wolfie, I see why Napper could be suspected but the MO, victims and locale are too different. Napper raped or sexually assaulted as part of his MO. Given the Plumstead rapes were in 1989, Penny Bell was murdered without any sign of sexual assault in 1991 and then Napper goes on to attempt rape and sexually assault in March 1992 before murdering Rachel Nickell on Wimbledon common. Jean Bradleys murder was in April 1993, again without any sexual motive, and then Samantha Bisset and her daughter are murdered in a sexually motivated attack in November 1993. The three main pointers of Nappers reality are physical control, sexual control and he developed the murder aspect after Plumstead as a way of punishing his victims as he blamed them for his actions. Nappers victims were all young. Penny and Jean were 43 and 47 respectively. In the West London stabbings, I firmly believe the perpetrator to be young, a paranoid schizophrenic and local to the area. In witness statements for both victims, they describe the murderer as having a wiry build with shoulder length hair. This is not a description that matches Napper.Reginald Blenkinsopphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15827127356087167217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8040803619606171036.post-82042719498341681722014-02-19T11:44:43.463-08:002014-02-19T11:44:43.463-08:00Hi Lee, many thanks for your comments on the the m...Hi Lee, many thanks for your comments on the the murder of Penny. My apologies for not responding sooner as I have been offline for three months due to technical difficulties. Another reader has given me two other possible scenarios for what happened, and yours is most welcome. this is something I enjoy as you then have to think and speculate much wider. I still think Napper is a good suspect due to the horrific overkill, and only when he is firmly and positively ruled out, will I change my view that he is a good suspect, but only a suspect. I also believe he is a good one for the murder of Jean bradley. Thanks again, DarylWolfieWiseGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04934133619872861691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8040803619606171036.post-88529533326228597962013-12-22T14:38:39.400-08:002013-12-22T14:38:39.400-08:00i believe penny knew her killer. napper could not ...i believe penny knew her killer. napper could not get into her car without being seen by another motorist. there was wallpaper sample on the console between the seats, as if penny was showing it to someone. she mentioned to the builders that she had an appointment at 950am.lee dumetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069478296393921019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8040803619606171036.post-30617912425315199452013-08-04T06:05:54.336-07:002013-08-04T06:05:54.336-07:00Again, thanks for your reply. This puts more info...Again, thanks for your reply. This puts more information on possible scenarios, as I do not known the area of the murder at all. Many thanks, as it gives me much more to contemplate. DarylWolfieWiseGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04934133619872861691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8040803619606171036.post-51898266229350038512013-08-04T04:54:20.046-07:002013-08-04T04:54:20.046-07:00Mr W, as an aside, not far from the murder scene, ...Mr W, as an aside, not far from the murder scene, is the river Brent. It can be easily accessed across the field and is where a possible clean up and removal of top could have taken place. The assailant would not look out of place without a top on if the weather was bright and sunny. A further aside is that St Bernadettes Hospital is a direct walk from Greenford Broadway. A check on traffic reports would determine whether or not it would be feasible that Penny turned off the A40 and was driving alongside it to avoid the possible hold up.<br />All I am offering up is an alternative scenario and the possibilities that lead me to think why Penny would be on that road at that time.<br />Sometimes, especially in these types of cases, too much effort and attention is wasted on the salacious possibilities and other scenarios are dismissed. Reginald Blenkinsopphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15827127356087167217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8040803619606171036.post-82072073963046832602013-08-03T13:43:25.889-07:002013-08-03T13:43:25.889-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Reginald Blenkinsopp https://www.blogger.com/profile/16071823388976292789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8040803619606171036.post-68072600414274588392013-07-25T13:39:32.129-07:002013-07-25T13:39:32.129-07:00Hi Mr B, many thanks for your comments on the Penn...Hi Mr B, many thanks for your comments on the Penny Bell murder. This is the sort of debate I like to try and encourage, and your comments are very welcome. Everybody has their own scenarios and I spend much time discussing psychological aspects of cases with my wife whom had worked as a medical secretary to a consultant psychiatrist for ten years. Would you like me to put your thoughts up as an additional post on the Bell murder? This will only be with your permission. Thank you, DarylWolfieWiseGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04934133619872861691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8040803619606171036.post-29492551819661122122013-07-25T08:39:28.255-07:002013-07-25T08:39:28.255-07:00Having read all the accounts in the public domain ...Having read all the accounts in the public domain of this awful murder, I am struck that, given the frenzied nature of the attack,the likelyhood is a stranger, possibly paranoid schizophrenic, was the culprit. I'm not convinced that Penny did know her murderer.<br />I don't believe she was being blackmailed because she withdrew £8500 from her joint account and not a savings, business or personal account. The sizeable withdrawal would gain the immediate attention from the joint account holders and that would lead to questions and thereafter, should she confess, it defeated the whole object of paying a blackmailer.<br />One possible scenario is that, whilst Penny was in stationary traffic, the murderer may have spotted her whilst crossing the road in front of her car and decided that she was his target. At this, he would have opened the car door, taking Penny by surprise, and threatened her with a knife/ sharp object. The murderer may also have been in quite an advanced state of a paranoid delusion. I will assume that he would have forced Penny to drive until he got to a point where the car could be parked. This would have placed the murderer back in full control.<br />The pointers to it being an attack by a mentally ill person are the location, the prolonged frenzied nature of the attack and particularly the use of knife or sharp object. The M.O, the lack of regard for the location and time of day or even the awareness of these facts has to point to somebody who is not thinking about the consequence of their actions. I am convinced that the murderer is a paranoid schizophrenic that is local to the borough.Reginald Blenkinsopp https://www.blogger.com/profile/16071823388976292789noreply@blogger.com